Curse

subterra · Oct 27, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18

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Originally Posted by tomcruisejr

i thought i made the most pathetic randomway team (lost vs 2 henchway in broken tower) last night until i saw that picture.

Wow, just wow. That's all I have to say about that screen.

Is this truly what HA will become? A one-man fame farming PvE orgy?

phasola · Oct 27, 2006, 06:50 PM // 18:50

heroes are unbeliveable strong with the right skillbar

ZiegDivine · Oct 27, 2006, 07:00 PM // 19:00

Funny that henchway which is rampant doesn't get nerfed, but random **** like SS (or every other way of farming pretty much) does.

Lord Mendes · Oct 27, 2006, 07:19 PM // 19:19

was a helluva run. 16 months... good times good times.

Y O U Lo Se · Oct 27, 2006, 07:55 PM // 19:55

Anet remove hench and heroes from PvP, you're making yourselves look like morons atm. This doesnt have anything to do with PvP (PLAYER VERSUS PLAYER in case you didn't know what it meant-you obviously didnt).

bcelmo · Oct 27, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39

The adding of personal heroes to any type of pvp (except Heroes Battles) will be ruining this games revolutionary pvp experience in the near future. It is lame addition that will turn away a lot of ppl from the game ... it will keep hardcore pvers that like to pwn some other hardcore pvers so that they will be able to show their bambi in farming groups but it will scare away the big majority of HA players. HA is not only about personal reputation or rank, is more about team/guild reputation, it shows abilities of persons same as teams, as they are able to compete against other players or teams. That is pvp.
And for those that whine about not being able to find a team in HA, plz stop complaining ... i started HA after 10 month of pve,with r0, 0 fame and a pvp skill limited to hex spammer in RA, TA and some low level gvg, in a 3 man guild. It`s true, i made my way to r3 in 1 month (just because i refused to play only IWAY, even if i sometimes regret that the classic IWAY oop/infuser is dead now) . After that the next ranks came easier, as it was easier to find teams. My point here is that if u really want to do it u can find teams, u can make your own teams of unraked players and train to win, first few days Underworld only, the next few days Broken Tower and advance to Scarred Earth in a week or two. Nobody started at r6, fully skilled and with all the knowledge necessary to win a altar map or a relic run. Going with henchies or heroes or whatever ***** NPC`s will come next in HA is like whoever clicks ctrl+space faster and on a better target wins, and thats not the point of Heroes Ascent at all.
If Heroway will become fotm for a long while, i`m quiting this game in sorrow after 15 month, sorry Anet

WheresMyHat · Oct 27, 2006, 08:40 PM // 20:40

Would someone explain what the big deal is? It seems to me that it only matters if henchies/hero's are better than real players. If you get a full team of real players with brains I would think you could beat a team with fewer brains.

So you'll run into some h-way at the beginning of your run, but the high end of HA will still be strictly PvP against better teams. But isn't that pretty much what's been happening for a while? You face poor teams at the beginning and good teams the closer to HoH you get.

I know the screenie was of QQ, but that doesn't really mean much if we don't know the circumstances. They could be trying screwing around, trying new builds, or letting their baby sisters play on their account. I don't even know how many players QQ has - was that even their GvG players?

bcelmo · Oct 27, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52

the problem is not beating them .. i`m sure i`m gonna be able to beat 95% of the hearoes teams .. but it`s not pvp anymore .. it`s just some kind of competitive pve. This was not the point from the beggining and if it becomes the point, than GW pvp is a failure after it was it`s biggest ace.

Y O U Lo Se · Oct 27, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52

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Originally Posted by WheresMyHat

Would someone explain what the big deal is? It seems to me that it only matters if henchies/hero's are better than real players. If you get a full team of real players with brains I would think you could beat a team with fewer brains.

So you'll run into some h-way at the beginning of your run, but the high end of HA will still be strictly PvP against better teams. But isn't that pretty much what's been happening for a while? You face poor teams at the beginning and good teams the closer to HoH you get.

I know the screenie was of QQ, but that doesn't really mean much if we don't know the circumstances. They could be trying screwing around, trying new builds, or letting their baby sisters play on their account. I don't even know how many players QQ has - was that even their GvG players?

Maybe some people want to play PvP and not PvE? If I want to kill NPC's I'll go play PvE.

Legendary Shiz · Oct 27, 2006, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Don't leave Mendes

Lord Mendes · Oct 27, 2006, 09:04 PM // 21:04

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Originally Posted by Legendary Shiz

Don't leave Mendes

lol killing NPCs...
R u schitting me Anet? this is what HA has come 2?!
I'm not leavin, gonna HA till the hero killing gets too boring.

Yunas Ele · Oct 27, 2006, 09:45 PM // 21:45

There is some NPC killing in GvG >_>

(Yes, yes I know its not the same, hence the >_> at the end). I haven't HAed yet today so Im just speculating here, but I really don't imagine Heroway going beyond the first 2 maps. Sure, it'll be annoying to have to fight a Heroway or 2 at the begining of every run, but just think of it as an extra round or two vs the zaishen

That being said, I still agree that taking Heroes into PvP (excluding Hero Battles) is quite a bad decision, but its ANet here, can only expect so much...

ToxicWasted · Oct 27, 2006, 09:47 PM // 21:47

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Originally Posted by Yunas Ele

There is some NPC killing in GvG >_>

(Yes, yes I know its not the same, hence the >_> at the end). I haven't HAed yet today so Im just speculating here, but I really don't imagine Heroway going beyond the first 2 maps. Sure, it'll be annoying to have to fight a Heroway or 2 at the begining of every run, but just think of it as an extra round or two vs the zaishen

That being said, I still agree that taking Heroes into PvP (excluding Hero Battles) is quite a bad decision, but its ANet here, can only expect so much...

Actually, there just was a Heroesway in Halls..

lord of shadow · Oct 27, 2006, 10:41 PM // 22:41

think of heroway like an extra zaishen level, except you get fame from them. they filter out some of the lower level teams and by the time you get to scarred and beyond you are (usually) against competant, real, players. the few runs i've had so far i've encountered about 50% hench/heroes on UW, 20% on broken, and after that an insignificant number. i'm not complaining, getting so much faction so fast is just what i needed to prep for nightfall.

if you get bored beating heroes try doing time trials, or full body blocks on the lone player- there's plenty to entertain yourself

phasola · Oct 27, 2006, 10:49 PM // 22:49

Finally my life long dream : one man guild has come true !
Thank you Anet !

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think of heroway like an extra zaishen level, except you get fame from them. they filter out some of the lower level teams and by the time you get to scarred and beyond you are (usually) against competant, real, players. the few runs i've had so far i've encountered about 50% hench/heroes on UW, 20% on broken, and after that an insignificant number. i'm not complaining, getting so much faction so fast is just what i needed to prep for nightfall.

if you get bored beating heroes try doing time trials, or full body blocks on the lone player- there's plenty to entertain yourself

That's what iway & b spike were for me in 8 v 8. But that didn't stop them from holding halls... I'm pretty sure in a few weeks all we'll see in heroway :<

ZiegDivine · Oct 28, 2006, 01:02 AM // 01:02

Wow, heroway is ****ing stupid. The one guy gets to hoh, stands there until there is 20 seconds left and then goes in and ... dies. ****ing tards.

HKEY_ · Oct 28, 2006, 01:12 AM // 01:12

HoH sinks to yet another low with each update.

Dr_Knockboot · Oct 28, 2006, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Its only started, henchies can only play the same way, they may be faster in reflexes, but ultimately they aint spontaneous, real players will still overrun them in a weeks time, just needs a little thinking, i know its frustrating losing to a one man team, had that today twice in broken tower to hero way, but yea we can drive out these one man teams out soon

. Have faith!

Otherwise Anet better fix this up, cos seriously HA is just gonna get even more depressing and not worth playing at all.

Nurse With Wound · Oct 28, 2006, 04:20 AM // 04:20

Heroes in HA = this isnt PVP anymore. The game is getting worse update by update ( with the sole exception of pvp char creation screen ).

When I go to PVP arenas ( let me rephrase PLAYER VERSUS PLAYER ), I expect to fight other PLAYERS, not one LOOSER and bunch of retarded NPCs.

Sure, moronic heroway, just like henchway is free fame, but I stoped caring about fame months ago, I'm there to enjoy HUMAN VS HUMAN competition. Now, first two maps are full of NPCs running around. Today I met countless amounts of great "guild teams" consisted of one LOOSER and 5 "heroes". What the hell is that? Thats supposed to be PVP??? Give me a break and a money refund.

BAN all heroes and henchmen from PVP arenas. Why? BECAUSE ITS GODDAMN PLAYER VERSUS PLAYER . 6v6 and now this? This stopped being RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing funny.

PS. Bold font and caps are for developers of "PVP" part of guild wars, because I think they lost it somewhere during the Nightfall development.

I know this is offtopic, but to not sound too negative about Nightfall - the game is awesome, so many changes for the better - thumbs up, this is actually fun. Heroes are also a great addition to PVE part. But heroes in PVP? No-no. Also, bring back 8vs8 tombs :P

Legendary Shiz · Oct 28, 2006, 05:38 AM // 05:38

To be honest, all I see is heroway and hencway right now. It's quite sad.